[e-gold-list] Re: Clear thinking - come on down and help make a difference (announcement)

[Venkat Manakkal]

Listsf245 wrote:
> "Availability. You cannot borrow more gold than exists without becoming a
> fiat currency."

> It reminds me of one of the profound realizations I had while

We have done some deep thinking -- For example: The stock market has
morphed into a money market. A society with gold as money and a stock
market is a free society. We are now entering the feudal debt slavery
part of the coming inevitable debt-collapse-clampdown.

The stock bubble made stocks into money - absurd P/E ratios mean that
stocks are being used as money substitutes - people hand in the money
substitute backed by theft/taxation for the money substitute backed by
production... which corrupts private stock issuers who start to sell pie
in the sky projects to grab public money (witness Enron, Global
Crossing, and the dot bomb era).

Stocks price the means of production in society. A huge boom in the
stock market is really a collapse of the unit of account against means
of production.

This happens due to the massive generation of the unit of account by the
government banking check kiting system. Think about it if you buy a
stock certificate -- was new fiat money created? Where DID all those
units of fiat come from that are chasing stocks during a boom.

Then the dollar collapsed against real estate. The dollar will collapse
against gold. Gold is a lagging indicator of monetary inflation.

Funnily, we foresee price deflation in America in the near term -- this
is already happening with house prices in Detroit to rural America.

People took out fresh new tokens during the housing boom - by taking out
mortgages - spent it on real estate and nice cars. The tokens left the
county they live in (and country). This is why cost of goods produced
did not rise with the rise in the cost of the means of production. This
is why manufacturing fled America.

They cannot pay back more than they took out and their stagnant incomes
make them far less and less credit worthy. We foresee massive increase
in social welfare programs to inject fresh new tokens, and "jobs for the
boys"... as there are no new wealth generating jobs.

We also foresee that those successful people that collected all the loot
-- by playing the stock and real estate money markets -- or by
collecting government contracts -- have amassed a concentration of
purchasing power unseen in history. But these people are not really
producers - they will lose their purchasing power as the sudden death of
working capital ensues -- an inevitable outcome of the concentration of
purchasing power in the hands of money traders instead of producers.

We realized early on that secure computers will be needed in a digital
age for secure money. We also realize that the Internet has economic
security weaknesses (hence DDoS and spam).

We have some sound ideas for profitable businesses -- and we love
competition. We have sound ideas for generating and preserving wealth in
society. Society needs more individuals that can generate wealth -- heh,
even the government needs that or else taxation on a 100% government
employee base results in... ???

Announcement below. If you want to make a profit in the upcoming
monetary chaos and mitigate the effects of the coming inevitable clap
down... come on down to Panama.

Best regards,

---Venkat.


> In my present inability to stop thinking, I wonder what a

And we can help you extend that....

Now more than ever...

When we announced the Rayservers Computer & Financial Privacy Intensive,
we knew it offered our attendees resources that they need as soon as
possible. However, we were surprised by recent events that demonstrate
this to be more immediate than even we had imagined.

On April 24, 2007, a federal grand jury, handed down a secret four-count
indictment against e-gold and its founders. Here is the DoJ's press release:

   http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2007/April/07_crm_301.html

Those of us who know the principals (and principles) of e-gold,
recognize that these allegations are totally false. Founder, Dr. Douglas
Jackson, made this clear in e-gold's own press release:

  http://www.e-gold.com/letter3.html

We think e-gold will ultimately prevail when it gets its day in court.
However, it's plight illustrates the current "guilty until proven
innocent" regulatory climate.

More and more overly-broad restrictions on being placed on individuals,
businesses and even entire industries. The ability to diversify your
assets outside of the United States is slowly being choked off. When
Americans are forced to keep all their eggs in one basket, the innocent
will suffer along with the guilty.

But it doesn't have to be that way for you. When you attend Rayservers
Computer & Financial Privacy Intensive you will receive the tools and
information you need to assure your future economic survival. You must
act now, however; it's later than you think.

For more information about our Computer & Financial Privacy Intensive,
please visit the Rayservers Intensive web page:

   http://gold.rayservers.com/seminar

p.s. If you are very interested and simply cannot make it, book a
personal appointment. You will not be disappointed.

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