[e-gold-list] Re: via digg: Citibank Phish Spoofs 2-Factor Authentication

James A. Donald jamesd at echeque.com
Thu Jul 13 19:32:17 MDT 2006


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James A. Donald:
 >> Creating a login, and logging into it, has to be a
 >> browser and email client function, not a web page
 >> function.

Viking Coder wrote:
 > Is that what "in the chrome" means - an integrated
 > part of the browser, i.e. some sort of X.509 digital
 > certificate setup?
 >
 > How would that change anything? Phishers would still
 > lead people down the garden path. It is not the
 > computer that is being "hacked".

If the login is in the chrome, we can deploy zero
knowledge methods such as SPF, which will have the
effect that if the user logs in to a fake site, the fake
site will not get the password.

 > There is *no* amount of provider-based, or
 > interface-based, security that will prevent the human
 > from doing something stupid.

Trouble is, there is nothing stupid about logging into a
site that looks exactly like the site you are used to
logging into.

We cannot prevent people from doing something stupid -
but we can protect against most of the attacks that are
used today, which do not rely on stupidity, but on
sporadic and minor relaxations of vigilance.

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